A carburetor that would allow a car to travel 200 miles on a gallon of gas caused oil stocks to crash when it was announced by its canadian inventor charles nelson pogue in the 1930s. While i dont want to belittle bluecollar ingenuity, the vapor carb s inventors are trying to solve a nonexistent problem. I could afford only to buy a chiltons manual and repair them myself. The float chamber is internally vented into the air horn 2. The carburetor securing nuts should be tightened evenly to prevent distortion or breakage of the flange. Rocedures ting it is that the best way to trouble shoot a carburetor ie it is mounted on an operating engine. He punched a hole in the top of the engines fuel tank, removed the carburetor more out of curiosity than anything else and inserted a hose into the carburetor jet, connecting that to the fuel tank. The oring side of the insulator block will then install against the intake manifold figure 2. Charles nelson pogue invented a carburetor that vaporized gasonline, instead of nebulizing it into tiny drops, thus dramatically increasing mileage per gallon of gasoline used. Sorry to post a new thread on this, but the old one was locked. I did get some literature on the pogue not much when i acquired the stromberg files.
The carburetor in the illustration on the right was designed by roy marks. In 1982 keihin expanded to north america with plants all over the continent. The air is pushed through an opening that narrows called the venturi. The ogle carburetor 1 mpg from a v8 engine teambhp. In this video you are viewing a engine that was manufactured from an assembly plant in the past that was only available for farm equipment machinery only. Catalytic carburetors make use of a chemical reaction to alter the quality of the fuel as it mixes with the air. Pogue carburetor 200mpg engineeringtechnical car forums.
Regardless of what method is chosen to clean various parts, it is important that small orifices and. Although no longer equipped with a pogue carburetor, charles nelson pogue s imperial l80 serves as a reminder and tribute to the man who bought it new and to bob rostecki, who undertook an 8year labor of love to bring the car back to its former glory. Chapter iv float carburetor service and maintenance. Pogue used the carburetor for about ten years on his car and produced about 200 carburetors thru the economy carburetor co.
Pogue carburetor 200mpg car forums and automotive chat. May 12, 2017 holley carburetor installation how to 780 cfm 4 barrel 33101 part 8 duration. The pogue carburetor system received widespread news coverage in 1935 and 1936. It will be found of poor gysoline mileage the result of bad driving habiu or conditions such as exeestve use of low speeds in accelerating, high speeds, and stop and sturt driving. I didnt eat, sleep, or see my family for six weeks. Although no longer equipped with a pogue carburetor, charles nelson pogues imperial l80 serves as a reminder and tribute to the man who bought it new and to bob rostecki, who undertook an 8year labor of love to bring the car back to its former glory. Feb 23, 2016 50cc carburetor tuning for keihin cvk on a qmb9 chinese scooter engine duration. The missing 100 mpg chevy carburetor alabama adventure duration. A 2stroke or double barrel carburetor works the same way that a basic carburetor works, except that more air and gasoline can be pushed into the engine because there are more barrels or tubes and thus, more airflow. How does the carburetor work within the fuel system. Pogue, norwood, manitoba, canada application november 12, 1932 serial no.
Pogue and his carburetor have been a legend in the field of fuel efficiency ever since. When i was a senior at ucla in engineering in the summer of 1957, i built and tested the pogue carburetor for my senior project in the senior engineering laboratory class. The carburetor will have an oring installed in a groove that will go towards the flat part of the insulator block. The carburetor should be fitted with the float chamber forward to avoid fuel starvation when accelerating or climbing fig. The theory behind the pogue carburetor involved the use of a combination of pressure and heat to improve the conversion of liquid fuel to vapor, and thereby improve combustion and efficiency. Though we gearheads are enlightened animals, able to rationally troubleshoot the squeaks, groans, misfires and other glitches in the machines we operate, were just as prone as anybody else to the magical thinking behind your common conspiracy theory. The carburetor is described in several publicly available patents which have now expired.
The 080457s, 01850c, and 01850s carburetors are 50state emission legal replacement carburetors for 196569 v8 applications. In contrast to the pogue design, tens of thousands of the various models of the fish carburetor were eventually manufactured. So with a carburetor, the best fuel to air ratio for each cylinder is approximated for the best performance. There have been several articles written on the pogue carb over the years, and several rumors on. That is the job of the fuel bowl vent and one of the carburetor s key elements. Do fuel vaporizers, or vapor fuel systems, to replace. Mb cj2a part name 539sk1 539s 698s 596s 636s 636sa body flange asm 1408s 1412s 1412s 1459s 1506s 1. With some tuning, a few aerodynamic mods filling in the grille, smooth wheel covers, headlights flush with the nose, etc, and some hypermiling driving techniques, ive been able to get up to 73 mpg on the highway on a few occasions, although returns of mid60s is more common.
Variable venturi carburetor by tadahiro yamamoto and tadaki oota, nissan. The ogle carburetor 1 mpg from a v8 engine well, we can call it a hoax, as maybe the government and people who never wanted this invention to become public want us to think that it is hoax. A carburettor that would allow a car to travel 200 miles on a gallon of fuel caused oil stocks to crash when it was announced by its canadian. It was based on the concept of the pogue carburetor, invented by canadian charles. Expired lifetime application number us7594a inventor pogue charles nelson original assignee pogue charles nelson. Since one of the important jobs of a carburetor is to evenly mix the fuel and air so that the final product for combustion is homogeneous, impurities and variations in fuel pose a challenge to effective carburetion. In california, those vehicles must have been originally equipped with a fourbarrel carburetor. A carburetor is essentially a tube that controls the air and gasoline flowing into an engine. A new carburetor that makes mileage of 200 miles per gallon a possibility has been invented by a winnipeg, can. Rather than a future technology, high mileage carburetors are inventions of the past, but unfortunately they did never make it to market. Now it is said that the laws of physics dictate how much energy is contained in a gallon of gas and a 200mpg nonhybrid is impossible to achieve in any vehicle safe enough to take out on the nations roads, despite the press release back in 1932 for the charles nelson pogue fuel vaporizersvapor fuel system that was tested by ford motor company and winnepeg motor company of canada, us patent. Google has not performed a legal analysis and makes no representation as to the accuracy of the status listed.
Thomas ogle and the vapor carburetor deleted from wikipedia for some reason would have revolutionized the oil industry thomas ogle 19531981 was an american inventor. This system was used for so long because of the simplicity behind it. In the carburetor, the fuel is completely broken into the minute particles, vaporized and mixed with the air in a proper ratio. For the other types of carburetor, you can read articles. This air moves through a narrow opening called a venturi. Original blueprints for 200 mpg carburetor found in england. Sebastopol, caits here, baby, says an exhausted but happy david pogue about his new instant bestseller, iphone. How much air enters the carburetor depends on the setting of the choke, which covers the valve the more open the choke is, the more air can enter. This design aims to vaporize more of the fuel and provide more power to the engine. Tom ogle believes his new company, ogle fuel systems, will soon become one of americas largest corporations because the world must have his invention. Now one of them may come back to haunt the oil interests. In the 1970s, tom ogle developed a new type of carburetor that pressurized gasoline into a vapor and injected it into the firing chambers. For most pictures, the 080457s carburetor equipped with electric choke is shown in the illustrations in this manual.
Farm show magazine the best stories about madeitmyself. The throttle accelerator linkage does not directly control the flow of liquid fuel. The needle valve is springloaded to provide uniform seating under all operating conditions. I tested the carburetor on an old ford v8 engine from the 1930s. This carburetor was the invention of charles nelson pogue, of winnipeg, manitoba, canada. Honda carburetor troubleshooting manual international power. When the fuel reaches the proper level, the rising float closes the needle valve. Seems no one else has ever been able to duplicate his claims. He was 19 years old and was tinkering around on a fourcycle lawn mower. The drawing below represents the most common design. Chapter iv float carburetor service and maintenance most float carburetors used on certificated aircraft in the united states at this time are manufactured by the precision airmotive corporation.
The length of time that gasoline can be left in the fuel tank and carburetor without causing functional problems will vary with such factors as gasoline blend, storage. Read our pages about tom ogle and charles pogue who got 100 to. The next item is the venturi, which is a portion of the carburetor s main air passage that momentarily narrows down. There are two different throttle body flanges used on the rochester 2b ore carburetors. Unfortunately, the carburetor had a tendency to explode, so some of. But the carburettor was never produced and, mysteriously, pogue went overnight from. He never gets production off the ground and his carburetor fades away but mr. Willyscarter w0 mbcj2a carburetor parts interchange. Sep 18, 2016 a personally successfully run an engine with a pogue carburetor b personally observed anyone successfully run an engine with a pogue carburetor. How does a cv carburetor works quick and simple explanation.
To read about the secrets of the 200 mpg carburetor. Another reader says vapor carbs work but they have a big drawback. Charles nelson pogue 15 september 1897 1985 was a canadian mechanic and inventor who in the 1930s filed a series of us patents for a miracle carburetor sometimes called the winnipeg carburetor that would enable a car to attain 200 miles per us gallon 1. The manual had the names of several people over the years who have. Areas of coverage include the phone and organizer, discussing various syncing topics even apple never dreamed of, like syncing a single iphone with multiple computers, or using the iphone as a data bucket to merge the address books from several different pcs. Instead, it actuates carburetor mechanisms which meter the flow of air being carried into the engine. He set up all the tests that were done and only his claims are available. Charles nelson pogue 15 september 1897 1985 was a canadian mechanic and inventor. Fuel enters the carburetor at the fuel inlet and flows through the float needle valve into the chamber. Carburetor basics in order to accomplish the above, a carburetor requires two things. But the carburetor was never produced in enough volume, and mysteriously, pogue went overnight from impoverished inventor to the manager of a successful. Jan 28, 2016 a bit off topic, but i have a 95 saturn sl2 that i swapped a 97 jetta tdi drivetrain into several years ago. Established in 1956, keihin is a specialty and aftermarket auto product producer.
According to the pogue patent description, fuel was introduced into the. Like so many other inventions, that carburetor did not fit in with the business plans. Pogue carburettor back free and cheap energy conspiracy 2003 oil industry suppressed plans for 200mpg car a carburettor that would allow a car to travel 200 miles on a gallon of fuel caused oil stocks to crash when it was announced by its canadian inventor charles nelson pogue in the 1930s. Glowing reports about this miracle of ingenuitys making a 1,879 mile trip on 14. Carburetor installation and tuning ultima products. It goes on to tell the story of the original 200mpg vapor carb, invented in the mid1930s by one charles n. I plan to develop these technologies and combine them with free energy aspects to. Nov 24, 2015 a carburetor relies on the vacuum created by the engine to draw air and fuel into the cylinders. The operation of the zenith model a carburetor can be affected by the way it was rebuilt and by the use of the correct parts. Pogue carburetor, gasoline vapor maker increase mileage.
Charles nelson pogue winnipeg 200 mpg vapor ware carburetor patent hoax 1927 1936. Hidden inventions exist only in economically uninformed imaginations. Like so many other inventions, that carburetor did not fit in with the business plans of those in the auto and oil industries. A carburetor for internal combustion engines comprising a vaporizing chamber, means for vaporizing fuel therein, a vaporheating chamber, a pump for pumping vapors from the vaporizing chamber into the vaporheating chamber, a bypass for fuel vapors from the outlet side of the pump to the inlet side thereof, a pressureregulating valve in said. Like many other scams, the secret to the pogue carburetor is psychology. The instructions which follnw cover the procedures for completely clean. How small engine carburetors work lawn mower parts.
The homogeneous mixture of fuel and air thus obtained is supplied to the engine cylinder. Test made with passenger automobiles indicates that cars equipped with this new carburetor will operate 200 miles per gallon. Under 10 mph the operation was much smoother than a standard carburetor. Page 16 we recommend that you use e merge original parts for all replaceable parts. Here i will like to share information on simple carburetor with you. Carburetor basics choke linkage fuel bowl idle speed screw throttle linkage main valve choke plate idle mixture valve the carburetor is the heart of the small engine.
In early 1936 breen motor company, winnipeg, manitoba, canada tested the pogue carburetor on a ford v8 coupe and got 26. Original blueprints for 200 mpg carburetor found in england health. After installing it in his ford galaxie, the car was measured to get 1 miles per gallon. The fish carb was an excellent design, well made of quality materials, that accomplished the same thing as a normal carb but according to a unique design principle. Factory made gasoline vapor carburetor from the past youtube. The 2bore carburetor is normally used on v8 engines where each bore supplies air and fuel to 4 cylinders through a divided intake manifold. But, as nissan1180 said in this post, there are organizations in the us which are working on such products. When the carburetor first appeared, it was said to boost gas mileage to as high as 200 mpg.
Use the oil or grease recommended by original tomberlin during the assembly, inspection and repair. Does anyone know contact information for sid pogue, my gpz has been sitting 25 years and i want to get this old j back on the streets, i cant remember what pressure the adjustable fuel pressure regulator should be set. This creates a vacuum that pulls fuel in through the very small fuel jet, which lets just enough fuel in to create the right. Gradient colored, italic part numbers in parentheses are listed as superseded by the. Pogue invented the pogue carburetor, which greatly increased mileage by heating and vaporizing the gas before it went into the combustion chamber. It has been tested and examined by several automotive engineers who claim it is.
The throttle can open and close, allowing either more or less air to enter the engine. Flange gaskets should not be thicker than 1 mm as thicker or soft gaskets may cause the flange to warp. View and download sym mb10a7a series service manual online. Doublemixing carburetor increases power and mileage. Models 2g, 2gc, 2gv service manual carburetor parts. The lawn mower ran for 96 straight hours at idle speed, he said. This includes marvel schebler designs formerly manufactured by facetmarvel schebler as well as. Presumption is they are still fully interchangeable. Its main advantages were simplicity, quality, and the fact that it could be adjusted to match any motor perfectly.